Why zinio is blocked? Where to notify them?

[Ilgaz Ocal]

Hi,

I use IMAP held mail advantages and I remember one day zinio got
blocked so I checked that folder immediately after buying popular
mechanics subscription.

I wanted to have a hard copy in hand of mail.

Its in held mail and says spamcop own blocking list blocked it. I don't
have a slight clue why would that happen.

Its a known company, not spamming, does business and their mails have
proper opt in-out schemes. Its a digital magazine dealer (Adobe DRM
PDF). If one gets mail from them, its likely his/her friend actually
gave the mail address to share his/her mag. (There is a option)

It may be a huge problem since people like me (buying mags) disables
its checking for magazines at startup so the only real reminder left
is: mail. No, its not very clever to have a 20mb application running to
show a new mag arrived once a MONTH :)


I will make a favor to foreigners like me liking to read mags online
since subscription with fedex etc is not a option, will notify either
spamcop or zinio. Who to notify?

I'd call it abuse of spamcop, no less. I mean if someone actually
abused the spamcop to make them in blocking list.

Ilgaz Ocal


Pasting headers below:

Return-Path: <notification-120331092-***@notification.zinio.net>
Delivered-To: spamcop-net-***@spamcop.net
Received: (qmail 9639 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: from unknown (192.168.1.103)
by blade3.cesmail.net with QMQP; 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: from notification.zinio.net (63.110.28.125)
by mailgate2.cesmail.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: (qmail 5231 invoked by uid 545); 16 Jun 2005 07:19:23 -0700
Received: from unknown (HELO eq-w2k-ap-04) (63.110.28.34)
by notification.zinio.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 07:19:23 -0700
Message-ID: <notification-120331092-***@notification.zinio.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Digital Magazines <***@notification.zinio.net>
Reply-To: ***@notification.zinio.net
To: ***@spamcop.net
Subject: Zinio Order Confirmation
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_Part_655_1692531.1118931783874"
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on blade3.cesmail.net
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: hits=0.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE version=3.0.2
X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.103 63.110.28.125 63.110.28.34
X-SpamCop-Disposition: Blocked bl.spamcop.net

[Ilgaz Ocal]

Hi,

No supersede or cancel option on client I use, so sorry for replying own post.

I checked why it was blocked and my guess was right, 6 persons reported
it as spam.

I notified zinio and spamcop , I guess it was all needed to do.

Sorry if I sound harsh, I had my paid ***@spamcop.net address
rejected as fake on couple of sites, looks like "give them
***@spamcop.net" moronic advice of some lamers started to hurt
us, real spamcop mail customers.

So I got a bit tired of those abuses as a user.

Ilgaz

On 2005-06-16 17:41:17 +0300, Ilgaz Ocal <***@spamcop.net> said:

Hi,

Post by Ilgaz Ocal
I use IMAP held mail advantages and I remember one day zinio got
blocked so I checked that folder immediately after buying popular
mechanics subscription.
I wanted to have a hard copy in hand of mail.
Its in held mail and says spamcop own blocking list blocked it. I don't
have a slight clue why would that happen.
y either spamcop or zinio. Who to notify?
I'd call it abuse of spamcop, no less. I mean if someone actually
abused the spamcop to make them in blocking list.
Ilgaz Ocal
Received: (qmail 9639 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: from unknown (192.168.1.103)
by blade3.cesmail.net with QMQP; 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: from notification.zinio.net (63.110.28.125)
by mailgate2.cesmail.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 14:22:42 -0000
Received: (qmail 5231 invoked by uid 545); 16 Jun 2005 07:19:23 -0700
Received: from unknown (HELO eq-w2k-ap-04) (63.110.28.34)
by notification.zinio.net with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 07:19:23 -0700
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:23:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Zinio Order Confirmation
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_Part_655_1692531.1118931783874"
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on blade3.cesmail.net
X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: hits=0.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE version=3.0.2
X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.103 63.110.28.125 63.110.28.34
X-SpamCop-Disposition: Blocked bl.spamcop.net

[Jeff G.]

Post by Ilgaz Ocal
rejected as fake on couple of sites, looks like "give them
us, real spamcop mail customers.

The listings at
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=spamcop.net&full=1
don't help. :(

[Ilgaz Ocal]

Post by Jeff G.

Post by Ilgaz Ocal
rejected as fake on couple of sites, looks like "give them
us, real spamcop mail customers.

The listings at
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=spamcop.net&full=1
don't help. :(

Well normally its their admins job to notify spamcop about abuse of
their services (yes, its an abuse) but they can't figure if a freak
like me actually takes time to alert them :)

I sent that "blocklist removal request" stating I am a spamcop customer
only, I wouldn't go mad if they don't care about it :)

I just hope some abusers will at least get a warning from spamcop about
their "reporting"

I just don't want some non technical people go panic about their mags
or billing as it will end up in held mail now, that's all. So I did my
best as a end user.

Have a nice day

Ilgaz